Caney Fork Regulations

I have had several folks ask me my opinion on the new regulations for the Caney Fork. First off I was surprised anyone would ask. But hey, it's good conversation and when we can't be out there fishing, we might as well be talking about fishing. Let's take a look at the new regulations, specifically for the Caney Fork and hopefully this will spur something for the Elk as well. Yep, I said it hopefully this will spur something for the Elk as well!

Here they are as I see them....or might I say copied and paste from some other website:

Rainbow and brook trout-14-20 inches PLR with 1 fish of each species over 20 inches.
Well, I guess this one is OK. But only if you like to fish for larger fish and don't mind getting away from the Hatchery Brats that have been in the upper part of the river most of the Summer. We will give this one 3 out of 5 stars. (non-scientific rating)

Brown Trout-24 inches Minimum Length Limit (MLL) with 1 fish over, (changed from 18-inches MLL with two over)
There go all the 17 &1/2" brown trout. Now those fish will make their way up to 23 & 1/2". Gosh just when we thought we had these fish figured out, TWRA goes and increases the size of the browns. I am going to have to spend even more time on the water trying to figure out these even bigger browns...It's crazy, just crazy, I know my wife is gonna love that! We will give this one 4 out of 5 stars (non-scientific rating)

The daily creel limit has been changed from seven to five trout per day, per person
This sounds like a good thing to most. There is talk of decreasing the stocking rate for the river, but at this point it is just talk. But, just in case I am going to continue to eat only fresh salmon that I catch at the Kroger River just down the street. We will give this one 2 out of 5 stars and see how this shakes out. (non-scientific rating) The fish in the Kroger River will still fear me!

Alright, there's my take on the new regs for the Caney Fork River. Hopefully you can tell I have put a bit of humor in there to ease the pain of hearing the same old take on a good change that has been a long time coming. Until we see March 1st, which is supposed to be when the new regs go into effect, I am going to spend as much time on the water as I can. Hope to see you there as well!


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Fly Fishing the Caney Fork with a Sluice

Mark Shows the First Brown

Mark and I just returned from a quick afternoon float with the sluice running. The river was dingy, dirty, and muddy. We turned a nice striper, then caught browns and rainbows. The brook trout were absent again and I am not sure if it was the water clarity or we just didn't get the flies in front of the right fish.

Preparing for an Upcoming Trip

The Rainbows Came Out Today...

We threw streamers and nymphs today and had luck on both. In spite of the prolific midge hatches coming off we saw very few rises. We did see some large fish hitting the surface, but I doubt they were after a tiny midge.

...and So Did the Browns

The sluice was running at 1800 CFS and again the river was rough coming away from the ramp, but once we got into the river it smoothed out and we had a steady pace to fish. We caught them on the usual stuff today and if the water would clear up the river could be fishing good. Tomorrow appears to be more of the same and we will see what the month of November has to offer.

Caught and Released

We are off to the Little Red River (weather and generation permitting) later this week to get some more value from the Arkansas Trout Stamp we purchased earlier in the year.

Caught and Released

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Caney Fork River High Water Fishing

High Water Up On One of the Cliffs

Dan and I got away Saturday afternoon for some high water Caney Fork River streamer fishing. The weather started out overcast, windy and cool, but as the day wore on we began to enjoy fewer layers, only to put them back on as the sun came and then fell behind the ridges.

The Smallest of the Stripers

After I got back from the shuttle we pushed off from the ramp. The water was extremely rough coming out of the sluice, while we made our way to left side of the river. The water coming from the generator was pretty clear, considering the rain. But the water from the sluice had an all too familiar stain, that helped to cloud the entire river. The 4' foot of visibility we enjoyed during the last week was reduced to only a couple feet.

Dan Going After a Striper

Dan stepped up to the front of the Hyde and began to work on the bigger fish. He was hitting the banks and was rewarded quickly with a nice 20+ striper. We floated for just a few more minutes and he hooked a much bigger fish. The fish took line and put the drag through the paces, only to throw the hook after a couple blistering runs. The only thing left on the hook was a big striper scale... Next Dan advised where he thought another striper would be laying, he cast and began bringing his offering back to the boat. Just when it dropped into the current and over the ledge a big striper came up and the fight was on. Calling a fish and then catching that fish is very exciting, that is for sure.

Another Nice Striper

We had a good day on the Caney, but the action from the usual browns was slow. The brook trout chased some streamers, but the browns were noticably absent. Hopefully they are getting their spawn behind them and will move off the shoals before the water is cut back. (Yes, I know I am hoping for the best here). The water could be a little warm still, but there are several reports circulating of the bigger fish in their spawning areas.

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Caney Fork and Elk River Fishing Report

You Never Know What is Going to Show Up at the River

Let's start with the Caney Fork report: Anthony and I hit the Caney Fork on Saturday. The river was high, actually a couple feet higher than I usually like, but the Army Corps as usual didn't ask my opinion. OK, really in their defense it rained like crazy here in Middle TN over the past week and raised the lake level back above 630'. With the lake level above where they wanted it, the Army Corps continued the sluice and turned the one generator back on 24/7.

None the less Anthony nor I could wait to get on the river and we fished streamers in the current and nymphs and streamers in the back eddy's. The usual colors (white and yellow) produced the fish. I tied up a cross between a Sex Dungeon and Circus Peanut and hooked up with a respectable brown.

There were some bass in the back eddy's too and they responded to our usual offerings. The most interesting catch of the day was the crawdad we caught at the ramp. There were also reports of huge walleye and large stripers by the dam.

The water is still 60 degrees at Stone Wall and like I said it is very high as well. Wading is not recommended. but the lake is finally leveling off. It may be a couple weeks (barring a rain event) before we all see the lower water we are wanting. The good thing about all this.....the larger browns do not seem to be leaving the river on the stringers like we saw last year. Hopefully they will do their spawning dance and go back their usual hangouts before the high water is finished.

The Elk: What can we say about the Elk. TVA is apparently trying to lower the lake level and they are spilling/sluicing at Tims Ford Dam. The lake however has other ideas and remains constant. Again it appears we may be looking at a couple more weeks there too. The river is probably not safe for wading and floating would be pretty quick. If you decide to float the river, be careful at General Lowe's Island with the downed trees and higher water.

So, I am going to tie flies and book trips for November. All this while hoping the lake levels and river levels get back to a more "normal" stage so we can get back onto the water for some productive fishing.

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Caney Fork and Elk River Fishing Report

The changes are starting to come around for the water releases on the local tailwaters. With Fall in the air it is time to pull the lakes down and get the levels to Winter pool. This week is already seeing some changes and before the week is out, I hear rumors of more changes to come.

A Few Fall Colors

The Elk River & Tims Ford Dam
Today TVA changed the water release at Tims Ford Dam. The release went from 480 cfs to 1000 cfs starting at 12:00 p.m. I haven't heard or seen the results, but wading is not recommended with this flow. I have a friend who has an inside scoop on the generation, but I haven't been able to get in touch with him concerning how long the release will last. In the meantime make sure to check the schedule before driving down to fish the Elk. Hopefully no one was caught off-guard by the changes today. If you have ever been caught by generation you know what I am talking about..

Mark Skates a Trout Toward the Boat on a Sunday Afternoon

The Caney Fork River & center Hill Dam
The latest rumor from the ever evolving water release at Center Hill is that the sluice will be turned off sometime tomorrow. After checking the newest generation schedule it appears something is abrew by the US Army Corps. They have split the schedule again, similar to earlier in the Summer, and are releasing twice per day. Tomorrow will tell if the sluice is off for the season or if the Army Corps thinks the oxygen level needs more attention. Stay tuned...

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Caney Fork, Elk River & Obey Fishing Report

S.N.I.T (Standard Nine Inch trout)

The Caney Fork:
The water on the Caney Fork is still running high in the daytime hours. But, it is also slowly beginning to clear. The lake levels are running pretty constant around 628 and with the recent rain I would guess (it is a guess) that the Army Corps will continue this schedule for a while.

Mark and I did a quick float yesterday afternoon from the Dam to Happy Hollow and the water temp was warm (warmer than the air at 6:00 p.m. We caught a few (OK mark caught a few) but none of the bigger fish we have been landing most of the Summer. We turned some big fish on streamers, however none of those were brought to the boat. Yellow, white and some olive streamers moved the bigger fish.

The forecast is more of the same with periods of rain and then a day or so of dry weather. This appears to continue to be the trend for the Buffalo Valley area for this week.

The Elk:
TVA has been releasing a steady 480 cfs over the past few days. Some of the water is coming through the sluice (hopefully cooler) and some of the water is spilling. We are hearing conflicting reports of the water temperatures on the Elk, but we will be down there this week and will have first hand knowledge of the temps.

Nymphs and midges continue to take care of the stocker population and the smaller browns are keyed into dry flies from time to time. The watercress farms have been releasing water from the fields which makes viability hard to come-by downstream. But with the constant flow, maybe this will clear up over a period of time. Keep those fingers crossed and use some flash in those flies while the water sorts itself out!

The Obey:
Kentucky got pounded by the rains this weekend and Wolf Creek is turning loose of some water through heavy generation during the daylight hours. This has a direct affect on the water levels on the Obey. TVA is running one generator 24/7, so look for the Obey to be high with a swift flow at least down river for several miles. Then expect the flow to slow some when the water reaches the water level that is in the Cumberland. I would hit the banks with streamers and if you have the luxury of an outboard drift a nymph (w/splitshot) over the shoals, while making several passes to find where the fish are holding. Wading is not really a good option right now.

There is the report on the Middle Tennessee tailwaters as I know them. The Fall weather and water conditions are making for some technical fishing, but the right fly, presented the right way, to the right fish will still produce results.

Troutdawg, thank you for the nice comments and stop by when you can!


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